solar rotation test

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Just confirming that my shot is the same temp solar feature that this guy shot. It is. I had to rotate and invert black and white on mine to see it, but it is.

I love that I finally recognized some temp feature I shot in someone else’s shot.

I’ve only been doing solar 4 months, and only been doing close up solar with Quark for 9 days but I’ve been obsessed with it. Even getting up to alarms to shoot, in retirement!

I love this in a way I never loved deep space. It’s so…immediate, and ever changing.

Yesterday, this feature and the proms next to it was my first time I ever saw something on the Sun move in real time on my headset monitor too.

XML for all “Black only and proms” solar processing in imPPG

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z-black-only-proms (download zipped XML for imPPG)

Here’s the text only:

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<imppg>
<lucy-richardson sigma=”1.30000 iterations=”50 deringing=”false/>
<unsharp_mask_list>
<unsharp_mask adaptive=”false sigma=”1.30000 amount_min=”1.00000 amount_max=”1.00000 amount_threshold=”0.01000 amount_width=”0.10000/>
</unsharp_mask_list>
<tone_curve smooth=”true is_gamma=”false>0.00000;0.00000;0.20899;0.90789;0.33730;0.02193;0.71296;0.00000;0.94048;0.00000;</tone_curve>
<normalization enabled=”false min=”0.00000 max=”1.00000/>
</imppg>

Some tips on solar photography

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NOT MY IMAGE:

THIS IS NOT MY PHOTO. This is one a new shooter posted on a forum, and asked for advice. But a lot of what I say here is useful even if you’re not having this much trouble, or even just trying to figure it out.

I agree with the people saying “out of tune (etalon) and the scope is out of focus.” BUT ALSO….

You have your capture settings WAY too bright to see any detail. And you need detail to solve the other two problems.

Are you capturing in SharpCap? Whatever you’re using, start with your exposure per frame at 1 or 2 ms (milliseconds)

And then adjust your gain to something to where you can see some detail. Dimmer than this. On my scope (Lunt 40) with my camera (Player One Uranus-M camera) I’d start at about gain 200 for 1 ms exposure.

If you have it dimmer, you can focus it while looking until you can see details more sharply. Then try moving the etalon control a little in either direction to see if more details come out. If you get it looking good, then focus again, can be easier to get focus tighter after you tune etalon.

You may have to tune etalon a little every time. It’s not “set it and forget it.” Changes with temperature of air, for one.

Once you get all this try using the little 4-way joystick push button on that mount to see if you get more details a different place in the view. Like if you have details in most of it but one chunk of the Sun view is bright and washed out, move it until it’s not washed out.

Then define an ROI (region of interest) in SharpCap that leaves some room around the Sun for prominences (you can’t see them with it dim), but not too much. You have some room to the left of the Sun here you don’t need to shoot. That’s only increasing the file size and making your frame rate slower, which can lead to distortions in your image as the Sun changes, since you’ll be shooting longer.

After focusing and tuning the etalon, I usually turn brightness back up for a moment to see where the prominences are that day. Some days they’re longer.

Then shoot 2000 frames of .SER video at 16-bit, to stack later.

Was it cold when you were shooting? Below about 38 to 40 F, my blocking filter doesn’t work. I use a dew heater strip around that part of the scope to warm it up.

If you get all that fixed, the concentric circles around the Sun you’re seeing are definitely Newton’s Rings. You’ll probably see them on the Sun too. I use a Player One Solar Fast Tilter, to adjust a tiny bit to remove that. I put it between the scope and the camera, or if using a Barlow, between the Barlow and the camera.

It looks and sounds like you’re using a color cam. Almost everyone shoots the Sun with mono, and if they want color adds orange later.

Mono can shoot a lot more frames per second.

An inexpensive cam that will work well at that focal length and be MUCH better than what you’re using is a Player One Neptune M or if you want to spend a little more, the one I use from the same company is a Player One Uranus-M camera. These are made for planetary and Lunar lucky imaging, but work great for lower MM solar photog like you’re doing.

If you’re going to get one of their dedicated solar cams (not needed, but great if you have the cash), make sure you match the pixel size roughly to the 630mm focal length of your scope. Don’t get a Player One Apollo-M MAX cam, even though it’s one of the best solar cams, and someone might tell you to get it. It’s for approx 3000 mm solar, and will not work as well for 630mm as the other two cams I mentioned.

Ask Grok, then ask ChatpGPT to make sure Grok’s not lying, or vs versa, if you don’t know yet how to match them.

All this may seem like a lot, but with time, it becomes more automatic, like anything.

How I shoot photos of the Sun

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I decide whether or not to shoot based on how I feel (enough sleep, etc), the weather….It must be clear for several hours, usually best to start shooting shortly after dawn, when Sun is lower in the sky.

This is paradoxical if you’ve done night astro, when you want to shoot things as high in the sky as possible. You want to shoot Sun early before heat makes too much fluctuation in the air.

I look at weather charts, also Seeing charts. If the sky is blue but seeing is bad (upper atmosphere levels), I usually do not shoot.

Gear: Player One Uranus-M camera (mono) on Lunt LS40THa solar scope (double etalon) with B1200, on Sky-Watcher SolarQuest Mount.

focused, etalons tuned, good gain / exposure (I think this was 4 ms and 300 gain, need more for double stacking). After focus and tune etalons (I start with one, tune, then put second etalon on, and tune), then I move Sun around in view using finder button on mount until it’s the best looking with no overly “bright” (out of band) parts

I have a little heater strip for the blocking filter on cold mornings. Without that, everything is out of band and shooting is impossible.

Then shoot 16-Bit .ser video using SharpCap pro. Shoot 2000 frames. Shoot maybe 10 videos like that. Then pack up, go inside, and stack each one in Autostakkert. I pick the percent that I use in my stack based on how the graph looks after Analysis.
I save Convoluted version as well as non. I look through the convoluted versions one after the other, pick the best looking 2 or 3, throw out all the non-convoluted ones except the ones with same file name start as best Conv ones.

I throw out all the convoluted ones. Then one by one, I grab the non-convoluted ones into into imPPG, using presets I’ve made over time, and adjust until I like it. I make 2 or 3 variations on each one.

Then I find the best ones I like and pull into PixInsight using SolarToolbox script, and add a little (probably too much, I’m working on trying to do less but haven’t got there yet, lol) sharpening and contrast. I make a mono version (as shot) and one with orange added, and export.

I pull into Photoshop to stack and add a signature. I stack both versions before doing that so they line up with mouseover in AstroBin.

OVERALL:
Sometimes I shoot closeups on the Sun using a 3X Barlow, same techniques, but requires better focus, seeing, and such. I don’t watch around on my wooden porch when shooting, it shakes enough to hurt the shot. If seeing is really good I shoot a couple videos using the Seeing Monitor in SharpCap. I use the Focus Monitor in SharpCap to help me focus well manually.

I use a headset monitor to see since it’s hard to see a computer screen in the Sun.